[ProgSoc] Data Persistence in the cloud

James Ducker jducker at it.uts.edu.au
Fri Feb 4 15:21:49 EST 2011

The reason I don't use Flickr for persistence is because Flickr's primary
goal is to allow people you to easily share and license your photos online.
Persistence is of course very important to this goal, but it's a means to an
end for them. I wanted a provider whose entire philosophy was "we won't lose
your stuff." Which is why I picked up an S3 account (I just hope they are
true to their word about redundancy, seeing as their internal setup is

I have a Flickr account too, but I only use it for sharing photos with other

- James

On 4 February 2011 01:12, Hashan J <hashanwj at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I thought Flickr was a good option but...
> Flickr Accidentally Wipes Out Account
> http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/02/flickr-accidentally-wipes-out-account-five-years-and-4000-photos-down-the-drain/
> I wonder how often this happens on similar sites? Must be very rare?? Can't
> wait for the 'bullet proof' upgrade they mention ; )
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Noah O'Donoghue <noah.odonoghue at gmail.com>
> *To:* James Ducker <jducker at progsoc.org>
> *Cc:* ProgSoc <progsoc at progsoc.org>
> *Sent:* Wed, 19 January, 2011 12:38:14 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ProgSoc] Data Persistence in the cloud
> Couple of cloud(ish) solutions I'd look at.
> First off, since it's photos - have to mention flickr. $25ish a year,
> unlimited storage. Probably the cheapest option.
> Then Dropbox - probably the best for the cloud-wary, as it keeps a local
> copy synced and you can install it on a few computers. Also convenient for
> having your photos handy for editing without worrying about sync issues, and
> access from iphone/web/android. $240ish a year..
> Or, a more DIY but in my opinion awesome solution would be crashplan.. You
> could plug a hard drive pre-filled with your backup to an offsite internet
> connected machine, (think: a machine in progsoc) and crashplan would sync
> just the changes over the internet, close to real time. The pro's to this
> would be that if you ever have to restore, no waiting for 65GB to download..
> just go to the offsite backup and restore direct from the drive. Or over the
> internet if it's just a small restore.
> Of course you could also go for the wimpier option and pay for crashplan
> central.. which has damn cheap pricing considering it's unlimited data on
> some plans.. though then you have to wait for your data to upload/download
> from the states... They do let you supply your own encryption key though..
> -Noah
> On 18 January 2011 11:44, James Ducker <jducker at progsoc.org> wrote:
>> I thought I'd solicit some opinions from fellow Computing Enthusiasts,
>> I have ~60GB of digital photos, stretching back about 10 years. For most
>> of that time they have existed on a single HDD (!!!), and for the past 2
>> years they've been on a RAID5 volume, which has been great, as initially I
>> had the dreaded Seagate 7200.11 series disks, which failed all the bloody
>> time.
>> Anyway, following the logic that disk redundancy won't do you much good if
>> your computer dies in a fire, or is stolen, or kicked slightly too hard, or
>> submerged in water, I've started dumping them to Amazon S3. TO DATE, this
>> has been awesome, and incredibly cheap compared to my two alternatives: buy
>> my own rack and put it in a data centre, or rent a VPS, both of which are
>> really overkill for what is a private, access-once-in-a-blue-moon file
>> server.
>> Has anyone else tried this? If so, any lessons worth sharing?
>> - James
>> --
>> *James Ducker*
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James Ducker
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